27
Feb
2005

How this written question to the Minister of Research did come into existence

I would like to clarify how this written question to the Minister of Research (it's not being discussed yet in the Parliament) did come into existence because for one it was the result of some efforts by our group (CAPT) which is of course based on and thanks to the huge amount of work which is done and has been done for many years on the lists by all the individual victims (mcactivism, before mc@topica.com and also Star.Mail from Omega CI) and with the support of the documentation on the various websites, this is therefore of course a collective effort and it was acknowledged and clearly indicated on the leaflet given out to the the Member of Parliament Mr. Claude Goasguen, which quotes and refers to the various groups and individuals in the US and in Europe. (as can be seen here:
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/ccapt2001/tract.html - it's not perfect but it's a concrete approach)

So this is not to put some sort of copyright on this written question but to show that the question was received because for one the right people at the right time were there (this you can never know) but also because it puts up front collective efforts, achievements, knowledge (reference to people-with scientific knowledge- or to literature) and also asking the people in charge something that comes within their scope of power or activity.

The leaflet above asks victims or people to sign a card (that BTW quotes the Initiative Report by the European Committee on foreign affairs, environment and security from Maj Britt Theorin) and to send it to the French Minister of research.

This is what the Member of Parliament has done: Send a written question to the Minister of Research (it is not yet being debatted in Parliament, even though we have received one more message of support by another MP, after sending out a Powerpoint Show with again references and the name of groups and individual activists.
It might be because it's the right time, but we are quoting you so please remember that this is the results of victims efforts.

This postcard/leaflet was given out at two demonstrations - in November 2004 for a free and independent press - in December 2004 on the International Protest against Violence toward Women Day, and sent to some members and victims.

This is of course a general approach without going much into details but the aim is to have investigations, hearings so that the different stories, accounts can be heard. It's not to give one unique interpretation.

Because it sometimes seems that there is a tendency among victims not to valorize their own and other groups and victims efforts, and sometimes to be overly critic and destructive with other victims, this is probably a consequence of torture and harassment.

Of course this is not true for everybody, and I hope my quick reply and my broken English will not create more misunderstandings.

Again, I'm not trying to prevent people from doing activism with this information ! Eventhough (it might be a coincidence) a communique is being sent out here, but it's impossible even for a group to reach all and everybody so other initiatives and approaches or even point of views are important and add some weight, strength to the subject.

The point is not to negate that others exist and besides the local knowledge to approach the right people can be important too, it's not a competition about who will be first.

I'm not even for a too organised approach, creative but collaborative efforts with all the individual knowledges and sensitivities as is done on the list can be effective too.

Progress has been made in France because there are victims there too, doing somewhat organised (collective letter writing) or just individual activism, because here like anywhere people only care about what is of concern to them. (eg the WTC was full of people from allover the world and it has changed world politics).

Until now the US has the most literature and documentaries on the subject, there's been progress lately with articles in the UK too, Russia has a law thanks to the Russian victims...)

Mojmir Babacek had done an International appeal when the Space preservation Law (HR2977) was being discussed. Victims on the lists helped send it to various newspapers. I had helped translate and send out the document in France, I learned recently because the newspaper didn't contact us that this critical newspaper (that already had published one victim's account) had published a very short version of this communique, (2 years later by another victim, who had saved the article).

Thanks for your attention and comprehension, I'd be interested to know approximatively what is being sent out in France and perhaps follow it up, I'll also be happy to support any effort but there's no obligation (because it does take a lot of time).

Best regards

NL

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I am about to put in my file http://www.aisjca-mft.org/help-europe.htm your quotes - in the original three languages of the mail.

It is important to send as soon as possible your agreement or disagreement since the drafts of the book which mirrors the site is just today in the ultimate correctiona at the pages of the chapter "Links Europei contro la Pedofilia, il Settarismo e gli Abusi Strutturati e/o Rituali "

http.//www.aisjca-mft.org/help-europe.htm : mostly since "it sometimes seems that there is a tendency among victims not to valorize their own and other groups and victims efforts, and sometimes to be overly critic and destructive with other victims". Victims or helpers no matter. But this is quite inevitable - even if very bothersome and damaging - considering the so DIFFERENT cultural basis of them, the so DIFFERENT knowledge: for someone direct also political awareness and for some others only a not otherwise explained subjective sufferings.

Anna

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